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I imagine the original Little Miss Vixen drawings framed in the master bathroom of their house




IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU JUST CLICKED ON, THIS IS A REALLY LONG PICSPAM WITH COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF COMMENTARY.

So I just rewatched the entire series and I love 90% of the characters but I have tunnel vision when it comes to what I want to talk about, so all I can do in lieu of that before I start this is say briefly: RYAN AND TAYLOR!!!!! TAYLOR IN GENERAL!!!! RYAN TALKING MORE IN LATER SEASONS!!! SANDAAAAAYYYY!!! KIRSTEEEEEEEEN!!! JULIE COOPER NICHOL COOPER ROBERTS BULLIT ATWOOD!!!! WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT VARIOUS PLOT POINTS IN THE COMMENTS IF YOU WANT!!!

Can I just say, before I say anything else? That the two actors responsible for these characters are spectacular and this story wouldn't have been a fraction of what it was without them. Both because they are so, so thoughtful and smart and also because when you are in love with someone in real life you touch them differently on screen, for the better.

I'm not sure where to place my General Seth And Summer Theory but the majority of it can be found in scene #2, which is maybe illogical but it's completely tied to that moment. Suffice to say DEAR GOD I LOVE THIS RELATIONSHIP, TO AN EPIC, EPIC DEGREE PREVIOUSLY UNFELT EVEN THOUGH I ALWAYS LOVED THEM. I JUST DIDN'T REALIZE HOW MUCH (and my tastes are slightly different now which accounts for the increased effect).

Five Favorite Scenes

five (4.10).

Well - she's hilarious, for one - my favorite thing in the world is to make her laugh, she has a crazy honk of a laugh, it's like Nelson from the Simpsons. You know and stop me, before I say she makes me a better man, but she makes me more of a man, or certainly less of a boy. [pause] I love every minute I spend with your daughter sir. I really do.

Summer isn't technically in this scene but she is ~in it~, just like how my favorite Josh/Donna scene is Josh getting to the hospital in the season 5 finale, hearing Donna is okay, and doubling over. This scene, like loads of others in the post-Season 1 strange and only occasional wonderland, could have been so much better had they really let it rip, really let Seth say it all. But it isn't, so we make do, even with the additional hindrance of Adam Brody being forced to squint into the sun the entire time so his face has like, zero emotion the entire time. WOW THIS IS AWESOME, I'M BEING SO POSITIVE. Here:

This scene is #5 because of this line:

and stop me, before I say she makes me a better man, but she makes me more of a man, or certainly less of a boy.

I think that is brilliant. That enables me to rag on a scene/season for not being good enough only to remember that line and consider - in some way - everything rectified (while simultaneously proving why the lines surrounding it should be better - the writers are capable of such insight, why is it employed only sparingly?). That is their entire storyline told in a sentence.

I do love that he says he loves every minute he spends with her, but I wish he'd told Neil that he has always loved her, that they are best friends, that they are a team in the truest sense of the word, that she makes him happy, so so happy, and that he tries so hard all the time to do the same for her. Seth struggles with earnest moments but they are nearly all at the hand of Summer, and Adam Brody is so capable of conveying that vulnerability that I wish they had given him a longer monologue during this plot arc that really, really said everything. We know it all, yeah, but hearing even this small piece of it out loud was a total gut punch. I love it.

In general I found Seth and Summer a bit strange in S4 - I know lethargy was their plot in the beginning anyway but it extended beyond that to the point where I am pretty sure it had something to do with Adam/Rachel becoming Adam and Rachel. They stopped touching in the way they did in S3 (more on that later omgggggg!!!!!) and so often Adam looked so tired, like it was hard for him to stand next to her. How hilariously unmerciful the writers were to them - potential pregnancy! proposal! wedding! There is absolutely no way it was not weird to watch her walk down the aisle when months before you had maybe been imagining the same thing yourself. That said, the fact that their plot arc in Season 4 was essentially Fear Of Being Too Content is pretty glorious to someone like me who hates conflict. WHICH REMINDS ME OF THE WONDERFUL MOMENT IN SEASON 3 WHEN TAYLOR ASKS RYAN ON A SCALE OF 10 HOW SOLID SETH AND SUMMER ARE AND THEN INTERRUPTS WITH "6? 6.5?" AND RYAN JUST SHRUGS AND SAYS "NAH, 10." Mother of mercy my OTP is unbreakable, why is this such a rarity on television.

ALSO SIDENOTE: I FUCKING LOVE NEIL ROBERTS.

four (season 1).


OH MY GOD I WANT THIS SCENE TO GET PREGNANT AND HAVE CHILDREN BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE THE CUTEST SCENE CHILDREN EVER, LOOK AT HOW HE CAN'T STOP LAUGHING, HE LAUGHS INTO HER MOUTH, LAUGHING INTO SOMEONE'S MOUTH IS THE GREATEST USE OF TIME EVER INVENTED.

I love this because he is by some miracle totally in control of himself for most of it (dare I say bordering on suave in the beginning?) and it's just like oh ha, ha, this is a pleasant activity, you are very nice Summer, and then he pulls back for a second and OH MY GOD WHAT. WHAT. Or okay, that's my reaction, but his is those words in lower caps, like the entire thing is so surreal he is catapulted back to serenity since there is no space in his body left to be bonkers. Anyway he just lies on top of her grinning and then laughs again, but it's more of a breathy giggle, and GUYS EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT MOMENT OCCURS I JUST MELT. He is so boyish and so happy and this is all, all, all he wants.

And oh gosh do I ever love the juxtaposition this episode has with him/Summer and him/Anna. It's funny, back in the day when it was airing I first wanted him to be with Anna (up until the Valentine's day episode, oh my heart) and I still love her so much and it was devastating when she left because she was such a good friend to Seth and truly wise and okay, "Confidence, Cohen" is probably my favorite line in the entire series and I say it to myself when I am feeling not brave. But as I was saying, I love the juxtaposition, because he really does like Anna, he does, but it's a totally different kind of like and you see it in the way he's pleased when she kisses him but oh god he just melts into Summer like it's his favorite dream and he knows exactly how it goes (THAT IS THE THING THOUGH OH MY GOD, like Summer is literally the girl of his dreams but I think all the time about what his imagining of her deeper self was vs. what it actually was. He thought about her yeah, but what a mindfuck that must have been that first year or so, when layer upon layer was revealed to him and he started to actually love her, not just love her because there was something in him that understood. I think the show is wonderful in general at implying that Seth innately knew that she was complex and deeply compassionate before most people and maybe even Summer herself did [albeit not in S3 when they do that intellect vs. intellect plot and Seth strays wildly out of character and the show implies that we're meant to think Summer isn't that smart - there is absolutely no way they could be as close as they are without her being a true curious and intricate mind, and Rachel Bilson plays her like this to perfection, so I don't know what that was all about]).

three (season 2).



This is the best thing they ever did, isn't it? I think it is. It is so tense, so perfectly paced, I swear everything is bubbling so violently under the surface that I always feel like it's going to explode towards the end, but it ever so perfectly does not. I actually really like the first half of S2, I think it was necessary and again, paced beautifully, all leading to this moment (I think this moment is way better/more important than the Spider-man kiss, which I totally love, but, yeah).

AND OH MY GOD YOU GUYS HIS REACTION??? I say this is the best thing they've done and I have half a mind to propose that those two seconds are the best in the entire series. LOOK AT HIM, HE IS GOING TO CRY HE IS SO FLABBERGASTED AND GRATEFUL. alskdjgalksdgjalk ADAM BRODY YOU SAINT. I will never, ever, ever get sick of that moment, it is truly a work of art. And also sidenote but I love these situations they do a few times with them where from a far it looks like total female objectification but the way Seth handles it it ends up being nothing but tender. I don't think this scene could be any less about her bangin bod, even when they get up close to it it's in the interest of the Seth/Summer tension dynamic and her efforts to help him. And the way Seth continues to react, it is with so much love...this is really just the sweetest, most innocent scene, which is ironic I guess.




UNGH okay and he does that thing right before he bends down where he looks up at her like "Okay?", and then he is so so careful, so careful. It's beautiful. Also, at that moment with his hands at her waist "Cartwheels" by The Reindeer Section starts and I remember distinctly the prick of tears when I first watched this. That song is spectacular, and spectacularly used. Absolutely delicate, like everything in this scene.





I'm pretty certain his reaction against the door is how 90% of people watching this reacted. Mind boggling scene, it knocks you out. Honestly, award worthy; their chemistry is incomprable. LEGENWAITFORITDARY.
two (season 2).



Summer: What do you want from me?
Seth: You. I just want you.
Summer: No, you don't! You had me. You had me at Chrismukkah in a freaking Wonder Woman costume, and you chose Anna. You had me three months ago and you left.
Seth: I want to make that up to you.
Summer: It has nothing to do with me. It is about you, and it is always about you. What you need, and what you want, you know, it seems that you only want me when you can't have me! You like the chase, and that's all.


Okay, well. Well actually first of all I love this scene for what it implies but ultimately what is said is spectacularly untrue as we know, but she has every reason to think that. Anyway, that is not why I like it.

HERE IS MY BIG POINT I WANT TO MAKE ABOUT WHY THESE CHARACTERS FASCINATE ME TO NO END, and this is the scene that demonstrates it so painfully and so PERFECTLY, sweet christ.

I don't know if the producers/writers intended for the characters to be interpreted this way or if Adam Brody was consciously doing this but it is how I see it, so. Seth is verbose to the point of insanity - he is always talking and there is always something for him to critique or worry about or joke about - things excite and frustrate him so intensely that it is almost as if there are too many words that apply to his thoughts and he is in a rush to get them out. I am pretty sure he's one of those people whose brains work so fast it's overwhelming (Kid Cudi: my mind runs, I can't even catch it even if I've got a head start). And if there are too many words in so many situations there is one thing in his life for which there are not enough. Not the idea of her, and not the discussion of her, but when he is confronted with a serious situation between the two of them he falters, and it is made all the more obvious due to its rarity. She stuns him, almost literally - it is a remarkable manifestation of the idea of the knowledge of love vs. the feeling of it:

But these moments in early season 2 are the best and the most important in this category because they are also the beginning of a new conception of identity for him (OH GOD THIS IS SO SERIOUS, are you reading this right now and thinking THIS IS TOO SERIOUS? sorry, except not). I think Seth leaving for Portland and what happened to him and Summer because of it is freaking brilliant. It demonstrates beautifully Seth's sense of himself and his relation to other people - which is essentially, outside of his parents, that no one is truly invested in him (and Ryan leaving just reinforced that belief that he had maybe come to think was not entirely true for a while). In the way he leaves things hanging with Summer it shows also that even after being with her it was hard for him to break out of his almost lifelong perception of her place in his life, which is that she is always - symbolically or tangibly - there. He is so used to living with her in mind that he in some sense of the word takes her for granted, just because he is so aware of his love and so used to it being an entity within himself that it is constant, unending, without responsibility. This scene above shocks him into acknowledging that someone else is invested in him in a way he's never had to understand before, and the look on Seth's face here, like he has absolutely no idea how to respond because the scenario is so foreign to him - it's unsettling, in a good way. He's lost, he has nothing to say partly because he is so thrown but also because he doesn't understand what she really means until (I assume) he eventually thinks about it. His conception of their relationship is that it is an always thing, because it has always been that way for him. Obviously shifting from an internal world that had been his for the past 17 years into this new outside land where he is responsible for his actions in a way that brings confusing consequences that have no place for the kind of lifestyle in which you leave because you think no one cares and you can't stop loving her anyway so what does it matter where you are - it's very difficult for him.

Eventually though he figures it out. And this is why a lot of the execution of their plot in season 3 bothered me. I think it could have been handled so much better, and most of the problems were because they didn't adhere to what I took to be their earlier conception of the characters and their relationship. It is also more simply that they didnt' let Seth and Summer talk, really talk, to each other enough. There are too many abbreviated, interrputed, or dramatically-huffing-out conversations that are beneath them. In the beginning of S3 there's that episode where they discover they're not applying to any of the same schools and Summer asks Seth why he didn't consider it (when earlier in the episode it is revealed when Taylor asks that Summer herself didn't consider it, and she shrugs her shoulders and says "different tastes" when asked why not, which I thought was in character) - he doesn't reply with anything remotely related to the question, and I was so bothered by that missed opportunity, in which he could have said because distance sucks but it's college and we have to choose places that suit our tastes, and we can be away from each other and it's okay, and it shouldn't be a deciding factor for either of us because we're stronger than that. SO MANY PEOPLE DO IT, it's part of why you go to college. But I guess it's TV so whatever. Anyway there were so many frustrating moments in that season due to lack of communication that I thought was totally not them, because you know by that point they tell each other everything, they are BFF and basically only hang out with each other because everyone else is lame, they realized, once they formed their unbreakable stealth team.

Anyway. That's what this scene makes me think about and why it is my second favorite. So, so well executed, and driven home again by this scene in the next episode, in which he yells for the first and only time at her:


Maybe I can't just be friends with you!
And that's it, that's all he can say. He's just totally, totally out of his element, he has no idea how to convey what happened or how he feels because it is too innate by now.

BUT SERIOUSLY LOOK AT THIS AGAIN:



How Ryan has to practically hold him up afterwards. And oh, her face and her words here, and how she is telling him what he did wrong but also saying you left you left you left you left and why did you do this to me and I love you and I don't know what to do, help me - oh my heart. The unfolding of Summer's compassion over the first and second seasons is a small miracle if I do say so myself. We are treated so often to her girlyness but her most moving scenes are when she is most simply a girl. WHICH LEADS ME TO:

one (season 1).



Was I really mean to you?

I always, always cry over this. This is one of the best episodes, and the room redecorating is one of the kindest things I've ever seen done on television - it's also just such a freaking GREAT plot, the kind Seth and Summer deserve and post-S1 rarely get, the kind that showcases their teamwork and hilarity and innate thoughtfulness (which I sometimes feel like they're not even aware of - it's like by both being the same way they don't realize how special it is that they're so good to their friends). I know the focus in this scene is on how lonely Seth used to be but oh my god every second of this is about Summer for me, and the series of emotions she runs through while looking at him. I am in deep love with the evolution of her character over the season - I started out not liking her but by this episode she was just breaking my heart with wonder, and I loveloveLOVE that that evolution is prompted by the final straw of her previous social circle proving themselves to be terrible friends. Because really it's Holly and Luke hooking up that does it, right? It's just like, that happens and Summer checks out. She is a wonderful, unquestionably loyal friend, and that this theme is pivotal and mentioned with such reverence by numerous characters over the seasons is just...!!!!!!!!!! Thank you, OC, for valuing this. Thank you thank you thank you. You did teen girls and the portrayal of friendship a massive service.

Anywayyyy, in that moment when she asks if she was mean to him - it is an awakening, an apology, a plea, and an expression of her evolving identity and self awareness that is just completely unmatched by anything I'd seen on a show before, and it's always been my favorite moment and the one that makes me most emotional. She is a remarkable character, Seth's equal in every way, and in this moment when she is most vulnerable she is also her best self, and it is a self that combines with her quirky snark and irreverence to form A GODDAMN SUPERHERO from that moment on. It is for reasons like this that I think I (and most people) had such trouble with the bad parts of the later seasons - the characters were so, so wonderful and complex and fully realized, only to be thrown to the terribly plotted wolves, and that was the last thing they deserved. It is a shame that they didn't get better writing the whole way through, because the actors were more than capable and the characters so entitled.

WOW THAT JUST TOOK LIKE FIVE HOURS TO TYPE, WHERE DID THE TIME GO. Anyway I have more.

Random Scenes I Enjoyed

Season 3 is, in general, a piece of poop by all accounts, but in this very small way it is my favorite: In no season is it more obvious that Rachel and Adam are RIDONKULOUSLY in love and happy (!!!!!!!!!!!!) - their body language and constant touching is so omgintimate it seems private, like we shouldn't look at it. Like this moment:


Which you can't see compleeetely clearly but she is holding onto the back of his pants.

And (well this is S1, but whatever same point:



And (actually this is S4 but they were still together)



This scene is so quiet and so the epitome opposite of what I was complaining about before re: them not giving Seth and Summer a chance to be themselves, which means being okay with being apart and having separate lives after high school. He's SO GREAT in this you guys, SO GREAT. He's visiting her at Brown and Summer has this meeting and he just waits on the bench outside and then he's so happy to hear about how it went and then he tells her to go back in and not worry about him and it has absolutely ZERO contrived tension or ~omg does this spell trouble???~ to it - and the episode ends with him leaving a message after leaving early, saying "If you don't hear from me for a while, it's not because I don't love you, it's because I do." It's FANTASTIC. Also look at him waking up from his nap all sleepy-cute. I need to make a gif of it.

ALSO SETH AND THE MONSTER NOISES. He makes them repeatedly into her skin. It kind of makes my life.







IT IS AWESOME: the last thing Seth and Summer do in all of S3 is hang out in a huge box for like two hours, probably making their hands into dragons and having an epic battle. Monster noises in the box! And oh, look at her darling face.

RANDOM CUTE THINGS:


This is probably my #6 scene, it is SO beautiful and just, like, god - their faces and the way she kisses him twice. I said this in an earlier post but this scene makes me think of Coach in season one of Friday Night Lights: "This is my dream. You are my dream." A gif:











HE MARRIES HER. SHE MARRIES HIM. I cannot imagine a more satisfying ending. And look at his face in that second wedding cap, my god Brody.



Truly one of the greatest ships ever. We're lucky.


text in the intro image is from Nicole Krauss's awesome History of Love, and it was an association first made at the slaughterhouse90210 tumblr.

P.S. Part 2 of this is their real life counterparts.


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[info]echofades
2009-07-10 02:57 am UTC (link)
Anna this is beautiful! I haven't read all of it yet because I'm too exhausted to fully enjoy it right now but I'll definitely come back to it later because I'm adding it to my memories. I miss this show and THEM so much, it's hard to handle. I wish that tv could be as influential now in the ways that it was then, at least for me.

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[info]captaincatapult
2009-07-10 03:23 am UTC (link)
I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL. Rewatching it made the ache of missing it that much worse. And yeah, it sucks that the comparable show now is Gossip Girl. I loved the first season but still it doesn't even compare to this, which, not to be totally sappy but whatever - was such a tribute to kindness and friendship.

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[info]falseeeyelashes
2009-07-10 02:58 am UTC (link)
OH GOD ANNA.

Alllll of this, all of this post is just marvelous. I am also really, really in love with the fact these two are paired with that quote from History of Love because that right there is perfection.

BUT THESE TWO. You have more eloquently and poetically said everything I ever could or would want to say about these two. I sometimes forget how much I enjoyed them, but then I remember moments like THESE (oh god #2 guts me like a fish, there's an emotional honesty and ughhh growing up, and it just hurrrrts and moves me) and it all comes back. So thank you, m'dear. Thank you for this post!

Also: I cannot wait for part dos.

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[info]captaincatapult
2009-07-10 03:26 am UTC (link)
THANK YOU M, I toiled and toiled but it was really fun.

I forgot too. Actually when I made my (now shamefully inaccurate) OTP list back in the fall I only named them runners up. They are like, #2 now.

there's an emotional honesty and ughhh growing up, and it just hurrrrts and moves me
YES YES THE THING ABOUT EMOTIONAL HONESTY YES YES. It just spills out of her, it's one of the realest fictional moments I've seen.

OMG PART DOS IS GOING TO BE MAJORLY CRACKED OUT AND WONKY, I AM STOKED.

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[info]paperskirt
2009-07-10 03:05 am UTC (link)
OMG THIS IS AMAZING. TYSM

I want to like put this in my pocket and just go read it over and over again!

The whole paragraph about Seth just talking all the time and having so many thoughts, but when it comes to Summer she as you so beautifully put it She stuns him, almost literally - it is a remarkable manifestation of the idea of the knowledge of love vs. the feeling of it that's exactly how I've felt about them, but never could put it into words!

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[info]captaincatapult
2009-07-10 04:40 am UTC (link)
YOU ARE SO WELCOME! Glad you enjoyed.

Yeah and the thing about that, like to comment on the commentary, is how great it is that they are complex enough to make anyone (including me) think about them. SUCH GREAT CHARACTERS. I want another teen show like this, why don't we have oneeeeeeeeeeeee.

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[info]barilace
2009-07-10 03:05 am UTC (link)
Ah! I just bought that book! And! Ah! You are making me want to buy s1 of The O.C. and watch the series before the summer ends! You? Dead to me! Dead! Lmfaoooo. ;)

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[info]captaincatapult
2009-07-10 04:40 am UTC (link)
It's such a good/sad book!! You will like it I think.

AND DO IT DO IT DO IT.

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[info]tosca1390
2009-07-10 03:08 am UTC (link)
EPIC. Oh so epic. I love your #3 scene. <333 They're so in love! And she's in the costume! And he touches her waist! And then he runs away! AHKLSHJBDKSKN.

I mean, yeah.

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[info]captaincatapult
2009-07-10 04:44 am UTC (link)
RIGHT?!?! Every single thing about it is perfect. I think I could watch it on a loop.

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[info]torigates
2009-07-10 03:25 am UTC (link)
That scene on the bench and the voicemail he leaves her after are some of the best scenes in the show, and the main thing I think about when it comes to their relationship (partially because it's been so long since I've watched the earlier seasons, but still).

I think Seth's storyline at the end of season one/early season two is one of the saddest things, and your number one favourite really just drives it home for me how sad Seth was before Ryan and Summer. I mean, it always strikes me as so tragic that when Ryan's leaving and everyone is just completely destroyed, nobody notices Seth, not even his mom, so I liked your big long thing about how Seth and his way of thinking. Plus I probably just relate to him for personal reasons which is really neither here no there.

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[info]captaincatapult
2009-07-10 04:57 am UTC (link)
Oh gosh that's a wonderful image to conjure when you think of them, I am glad you told me that. They really are wonderful scenes.

It IS really sad - he was so lonely (and yet at the same time I think he's one of those people who's really content to chill with himself, his mind is so busy it's probably often easier that way). And I love when he brings it up to them, not to make them feel guilty but so that they know how much he appreciates his new life later on. Like man, I can't remember the episode but it's in S3 and he's talking about how he's always wanted to leave Newport and maybe he would've if she hadn't started talking to him/Ryan showed up when he did, but then he goes "but I am so glad I stayed." Eeeeeeeeeeeee Setheleh.

But uh yeah, glad you mention relating to him because I do in really, really intense ways (I'm not lonely and I have wonderful friends, but oh my gosh the way he thinks about love...I think that's why I was able to write so much about him, ha!).

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[info]calikalie
2009-07-10 03:28 am UTC (link)
Oh my god, Anna. This post. I think I need to take a few minutes to soak all of this in, because this is the most epic thing ever. Just...wow. As if I didn't already love them enough as it is. I love you for this. Seriously.

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[info]captaincatapult
2009-07-10 04:59 am UTC (link)
Aw thank you Kalie - such epic characters deserve nothing less in my eyes! I just had to.

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[info]silverstars
2009-07-10 03:37 am UTC (link)
I am so ashamed that I don't even remember half of these scenes. CLEARLY A REWATCH IS IN ORDER. I am going to bookmark this and read everything tomorrow at work. My brain is a little scattered right now and I know I won't appreciate your words properly.

There are few things I love more than when you talk in depth about great television. YOUR MIND IS SPECIAL, ANNA.

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[info]captaincatapult
2009-07-10 05:01 am UTC (link)
I'd forgotten a LOT too, I was surprised. But I think rewatching it now is a really good thing to do - it's totally different with a few years perspective and some added maturity.

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[info]shrewtee
2009-07-10 03:51 am UTC (link)
LOL BRB DEALING WITH THIS. I JUST ....WOW. I'm having one of those no words allowed responses.

PS I hope Britta told you we talked about you a lot.

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[info]captaincatapult
2009-07-10 05:03 am UTC (link)
She didn't (I actually have not talked to her in a tragically long time, I feel totally off because of it) but yaaaaaaaay it's like I was there a little bit!!

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[info]glassbomb
2009-07-10 03:58 am UTC (link)
Oh my gosh Anna, this is such a lovely and thoughtful post. Like, now I feel stupid that I missed out on the whole experience of watching this show when I was a teenager. If I had realized that it could have given me these kind of characters I would have loved it. I don't remember why it was that I didn't watch it...I just didn't. Also, this makes me ashamed that I didn't get past episode eight when I started watching it months ago. It wasn't even that I didn't like the show, it's just because I'm me.

Anyway even though I haven't experienced this couple that much at all I love that you can make me understand your emotional connection with them and why they're worthy of such a connection. I seriously feel like I ship them already now.

Oh my God, Seth. I am looking at the part where he is in the Sailing club and the Film Preservation club and the Comic Book club all by himself and dying. OH SETH I WOULD HAVE BEEN IN ALL OF THOSE CLUBS WITH YOU.

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[info]captaincatapult
2009-07-10 05:05 am UTC (link)
This is such a lovely and thoughtful comment!! And oh man don't feel stupid, everyone has something they missed, but yeah I am absolutely sure you'd have loved it.

It wasn't even that I didn't like the show, it's just because I'm me.
LOL I love this, that is so sweet. If you ever feel the pull again DO INDULGE, there are some really wonderful things even in the later seasons.

HAHA WOULDN'T WE ALL HAVE BEEN. They are awesome clubs, Harbor kids were so lame.

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[info]anna_bo_banna
2009-07-10 04:09 am UTC (link)
oh my god, anna, this is so beautiful, i'm about to cry. and i haven't even finished season 1 still.

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[info]captaincatapult
2009-07-10 05:08 am UTC (link)
Aw, thank you! To be honest I cried during almost every episode while watching from a combination of it being so wonderful and feeling so nostalgic.

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[info]frimeuse
2009-07-10 04:27 am UTC (link)
Oh, god, ANNA! THIS WHOLE POST MADE ME REALLY, REALLY INEXPLICABLY EMOTIONAL IDEK. I want to rewatch this series so badly now, but I can't because it makes me sad because it is so firmly in the list of things that I love that are now slightly tainted and it makes me ridiculously sad. I woke up hella late today (we're talking 1:18 PM) so when I dragged myself out of bed to eat, I went and watched TV while it was cooking and a random episode of this glorious show was on a random channel. It was season 2, the one with Kirsten's car accident and the comic book launch and I just felt this overwhelming sense of happiness. At the same time, through the entire duration of it I thought of you and how this series makes you so full of glee and I decided that rewatching it can't be that bad.

WHICH REMINDS ME OF THE WONDERFUL MOMENT IN SEASON 3 WHEN TAYLOR ASKS RYAN ON A SCALE OF 10 HOW SOLID SETH AND SUMMER ARE AND THEN INTERRUPTS WITH "6? 6.5?" AND RYAN JUST SHRUGS AND SAYS "NAH, 10."

I. LOVE. THAT. MOMENT. It is so indicative of everything I love about Seth and Summer. Everything I love about every romance I've ever observed and really thought it was something special.

P.S. Part 2 of this is their real life counterparts.

THIS MIGHT MAKE ME CRY, IDEK.

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[info]captaincatapult
2009-07-10 05:11 am UTC (link)
I totally understand!! It is as much about the era in which it aired as it is about the show itself - rewatching made me incredibly emotional both because it was so good and because it made me feel so nostalgic. I remember lying in bed after episodes every week, just going over everything and thinking that was so wonderful!

HAHA I knew you'd appreciate that moment - we have similar interests for a reason, hee!

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[info]ridingnerdy
2009-07-10 04:56 am UTC (link)
HI, I'm on my way out, I will be back to word vomit all my thoughts, but beautiful picspam and excellent choice on the History of Love excerpt!

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[info]captaincatapult
2009-07-10 05:18 am UTC (link)
OKAY YAY AND THANK YOU!

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[info]elapses
2009-07-10 04:56 am UTC (link)
OKAY I DO NOT EVEN KNOW HOW TO COMMENT ON THIS, it is too much.

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[info]captaincatapult
2009-07-10 05:20 am UTC (link)
HAHA THAT IS OKAY. Also let me know if you do rewatch S4 I want to know if you also see a difference in their body language.

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[info]jenaben
2009-07-10 05:11 am UTC (link)
OH GOD ANNA I HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY, WHERE TO START, WHERE TO START?? Okay, first of all that paragraph from History of Love is SO PERFECT, I am floored. I don't remember that book that well (although I did like it), and I feel like that paragraph fits so phenomenally well with these two that I'm happy that I don't also associate it with characters from History of Love - it just became entirely Seth/Summer to me.

Seth's face in your #4, second from the bottom in the right hand column? PERFECTION. I so often wonder, with these two, what was actually in the script and what they just...did because it was easier to just be themselves. I mean, I'm sure Seth not being able to believe this was really happening was there on paper, but they really do look like they are having so much fun, and he is really struggling not to laugh to the point that I think they take the script and they add this unavoidable layer of Adam and Rachel to it. The result is delightful in a way that is so incredibly rare (please see this paragraph re: the season 1 scene where the four of them are sprawled on the same bed. The difference between Adam and Rachel and Ben and Mischa is remarkable in terms of comfort level and chemistry).

LAUGHING INTO SOMEONE'S MOUTH IS THE GREATEST USE OF TIME EVER INVENTED
Do you remember that paragraph I emailed you a while ago from the thing I'm working on, that I said could maybe sort of apply to Efrons? Well there's a part, later, where one character says "I miss the way he used to smile against my skin" so I couldn't agree more with you about this.

I want to go on a huge rant about the way they touch each other, and how lucky we are to have had actors in these roles who really care but I will save it for Part 2 (which, really, THANK YOU IN ADVANCE). I will, however, mention that the look on Adam Brody's face in that second wedding cap is an testament to how incredible an actor he really is. I can't even imagine how difficult that must have been, to not only make his facial expression neutral (as you said, he spent so much of that season looking tired) but to actually look like he was completely in love with the girl walking towards him? I CAN'T EVEN. Especially when we have seasons worth of evidence of how easily he (probably) could have given her that look a few months earlier. Oh, that reminds me, thank you for this sentence: when you are in love with someone in real life you touch them differently on screen, for the better.

I know I haven't even commented on Seth and Summer's relationship, and how it evolved and the characters themselves and all the wooonderful things you wrote, but I'm going to have to email you about it because I don't feel like I'm far enough along in my re-watch to say anything about it just yet.

Okaaaay, sorry for rambling, I'm going to go watch an episode before bed.

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[info]captaincatapult
2009-07-10 05:31 am UTC (link)
Yeah that quote is totally about them for me now too, it is freakishly accurate. The part that always got me was remain uncomplicated, there is so much inside that brief phrase, more than perhaps the entire rest of the paragraph altogether.

Yeah I think there's a lot of Rachel and Adam in a ton of scenes just because yeah, like I mentioned, you just touch differently. The thing that made me notice it was the thing you mention with them on the bed, because while I like Ben and Mischa there is just so much less going on and it was so obvious there. And I love that, because there is absolutely no argument for real life love not having an effect on fiction. THAT IS AMAZING. THAT. IS. AMAZING.

I have to say I can't watch the wedding scene and only think about Seth and Summer, and I have a feeling that's true for most people since everyone knew what was going on (omg in the finale Summer is reading a tabloid and she's like "AAAAh real life Jake broke up with real life April from the Valley!" and I thought MY GOD DON'T JOKE ABOUT IT!!!!!!! haha. They're so meta sometimes, it's sometimes funny, sometimes too far). I just worry, man, I worry that he wished it wasn't happening. (For some reason I rarely worry about her in any situation - I feel bad since we obviously have no idea but I've just come to believe it was not a mutual thing and it's coloring my thought processes) Nevertheless the looked he pulled out there was an absolute doozy. Maybe there was something real in it still.

YES PLEASE EMAIL!

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[info]hellopoe
2009-07-10 05:12 am UTC (link)
OH MY GOD, ANNA. THIS POST.

THERE ARE NOT WORDS, NO WORDS! MILLIONS OF &hearts&hearts&hearts&hearts&hearts

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[info]captaincatapult
2009-07-10 05:21 am UTC (link)
I PROBABLY USED ENOUGH FOR US ALL HAHA! Thanks though!!!!

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[info]noeffingpostage
2009-07-10 06:03 am UTC (link)
So I came over from the_oc community, and I'm glad I did! Your picspam actually did S/S justice by analyzing their relationship and the humans in them to no end. I loved reading your thoughts, many of which that I didn't realize I agreed with until now. Brilliant post, memming =)

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[info]lucky_star79
2009-07-10 06:24 am UTC (link)
Wow... Epic picspam is EPIC!♥♥♥

I'll always love them, they're so meant to be together forever and EVER! (and even though S4's Ryan/Taylor became my OC OTP, Seth/Summer will always be the first and sweetest OTP on the O.C.)

I really enjoyed watching and reading through this, thanks for sharing!:D

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[info]hydrogens
2009-07-10 08:33 am UTC (link)
THIS IS EPIC. EPIC. EPIC.

I LOVE ALL THE SCENES AND JUST EVERYTHING, VERY PRETTY. ♥♥

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[info]stormiesthaze
2009-07-10 09:22 am UTC (link)
EEEEEEEE! This is lovely! I have such happy memories of this show, less the show itself but more the whole watching experience - every week all of us girls in the boarding house who were old enough not to be in bed by 9 would crowd into the common room and watch and we'd all shout things at the TV and we'd have big discussions about what had just happened during the commercial breaks!

There a quite a lot of scenes up here that I don't remember - I rewatched S1 a couple of months ago and it made me so happy (in the same way that pre-strike S1 Gossip Girl did) but I haven't seen a lot of S3 and by the time S4 came around I was fairly apathetic (Seth/Summer were the main reason I watched and they had gone off the rails by this point) but this makes me think that catching up might not be so painful!

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[info]lisa2011
2009-07-10 09:51 am UTC (link)
omg! this is so wonderful and well done. I cant stop reading, nor looking at all the pretties. seriously. SO great.<3

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[info]x_fireflies_x
2009-07-10 10:02 am UTC (link)
Wow that's an amazing picspam! ♥ :O

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[info]heartswt
2009-07-10 10:02 am UTC (link)
AHHH i need to get ready to go to a gig, but now all i want to do is watch the OC. damn you, damn you anna!

i'm coming back to read in its entirety!

ps seth cohen was my high school demigod.

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[info]heartswt
2009-07-13 02:54 pm UTC (link)
HOLY EFF, THIS WAS PERFECT!! Thank you for (as you do so often) express things I've thought before, but not been able to articulate, and to appreciate a new depth of thought into a show I just "really enjoyed", but will now see in a new light.

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[info]thatlldopig
2009-07-10 10:54 am UTC (link)
OH MY GOD. you have no idea how much I enjoyed this, it's my favorite kind of picspam - pretty and woooordy. <3

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[info]pirateygoodness
2009-07-10 11:22 am UTC (link)
Oh man, this picspam reminds me that, very badly, I need to see season 4.

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